Episode #08- You're Steele The One For Me
by Xenos1981 (Fri Dec 15 2006 05:32:00 )
Here we go,
ladies. By unanimous decision (two whole votes), we've decided to do You're
Steele The One For Me. Post away...
no...No more foreplay.
by pianoRose (Fri Dec 15 2006 11:33:12 )
Monday--going away for the weekend.
by brenda_grace2u (Sat Dec 16 2006 06:30:45 )
is a good example of why these weekly discussions are a great idea. I have
only watched this one 2 or 3 times. It just never really appealed to me
among the 94 hours of RS to pick from. I can't put my finger on why, but
after watching it for this discussion, I realized it's really not a bad
the discussion begin. LOL
After 2 weeks
of titles that stretched the imagination to figure out there meaning, we
finaly get one that makes sense.....NOT!! LOL
I really enjoyed
the new elimante of "Teaching Mr. Steele". This show was only 8 episodes
old and it was already unfolding like the layers of an onion. Further establishing
who wears the pants, or skirts, in the agency. Then to have Laura stumble
around while Mr. Steele smoothly flows through the clues and evidence.....very
fun to watch.
I have to agree with Mr. Steele on this one.....a few turns on the coals
would have done them both a lot of good. LOL
I wish we could
have heard the rest of the "The cats on the roof and we can't get her down"
story. From what I could gather, the story was very relevant, but they
never let him finish. How did that poor cat die??? LOL
I liked the
"initial" game. How Mr. Steele refused to let Laura & Murphy keep him
out of the loop with the initials. He was so determined to figure them
out. And the adorable looks on his face as he tried multiple versions of
what they could mean....Classic Mr. Steele.
I know you
guys all LOVE Remington in a tux, but for my money....I'll take him in
the all black "breaking and entering" outfit every time. MMMMMM
I also thought
Laura looked guite good in the Geshia outfit. She should consider this
look more often. The Kimono has great hiding places for poison, clues,
line of the episode...."Shooting a hoop?? Is it a very large animal?"
And in closing,
my favorite "80's" moment goes to the BIG ole floppy disk. Remember those??
This show did a great job of not being dated, but then someone pulls out
a 4 x 6 floppy and you suddenly remember....oh yeah this was 25 years ago.
it for me. I have to go out of town for the weekend, but I look forward
to reading all of your commentaries upon my return. Have a great weekend
by everglade68 (Sat Dec 16 2006 08:26:07 )
glad you liked the episode. Funny that I had the opposite experience. I
had watched this episode exactly three times before last night, and had
liked it with the rest of Season One. This time around, I was somewhat
with the show. It occurs to me that RS is a unique show and one
has to be
in the right mood to appreciate it. I apparently was not, so I am
to sit back and read all your posts and see what I missed.
by Xenos1981 (Sat Dec 16 2006 09:20:11 )
I'm gonna be late in posting my comments. This weekend is just too darn
hectic! LOVE your observations, Brenda. Unfortunately, I won't be able
to post my thoughts until probably Monday. Sorry. But I'll say this...This
one never really clicked with me until about my fourth viewing. Now, though
it's not one of my favorites, I really appreciate it for its relationship
insights. It actually moved things along between the characters. And who
wouldn't love "the mantle of Remington Steele" scene?!?! So funny! OK.
More later. I've gotta run!!!
no...No more foreplay!
by DCZinger (Sat Dec 16 2006 09:56:08 )
I for one
LOVE sushi, Brenda. It's an acquired taste I know. I just find it strange
that a gourmand like Steele is so squeamish around raw fish and doesn't
know octopus when he sees it.
I too didn't
think much of this episode for years. I think maybe it's coming after three
stellar episodes. However, You're Steele the One for Me is definitely an
I think the
"Teach me" scene is definitely an excellent relationship moving forward
bit. You also see Steele's "icy calm" facade cracking as he pulls Laura
into his office for their talk. He also looks HURT. I think they finally
went TOO far with dismissing his efforts to help with the cases. "Maybe
he ran out of doodles" as sneered by Laura finally did him in. In Season
Three's "Puzzled Steele", they expand upon this by having Laura and Steele
do their silly "bet" as to who is the better detective.
suit in the first scenes...That is the SAME one she wears when giving Steele
their "let's take a break" talk in Steele of Approval. Apparently, it was
at the cleaners when Enterprow blew up her house.
Love how Steele
was ready, willing and able to do battle for Laura as they worked to free
Mike. He had that BIIG knife out and ready for her, didn't he?
Murphy "shooting hoops". Are they a very large animal? He he!
I'm with everybody
else? What happened to the blasted cat?
does Laura know Mike? Classmates? Restaurant Regular?
What are they
going to do with the "Palace of Heaven" disc? Turn it over to the cops?
Just keep it?
line when he realizes that he's been in the wrong movie. This isn't "The
Yakuza" but "The Third Man"! LOL.
I love about you,Laura...Always willing to stick my neck out".
by picac (Sat Dec 16 2006 10:31:09 )
OK I haven't
had time to do my homework and rewatch but I'm tossing this out because
I don't need to rewatch to state unequivocally that the actor that plays
Mike is the WORST guest star actor this show ever hired. By a long mile.
He's awful and I don't mean awful because his character is annoying or
played annoyingly or over the top but just awful because he can barely
get his lines to sound like a human sentence and he barks/shouts all his
words. Yikes! He's especially bad when you consider the usual top quality
guess stars the show had and he's glaringly bad when paired up in an emotional
scene with scene the very fine actor that plays his brother. He's so grating
he comes off as ungrateful and unpleasant to the point where one wonders
why anyone cares to help him -- Steele, Laura or his brother.
by picac (Sat Dec 16 2006 11:32:38 )
his "A man can only doodle on his napkin so long" and "teach me" -- we
see that the man is becoming very much bored with just being a flashy frontman.
He wants to learn. So much so he has a pencil/pen on hand along with his
trusty notebook. ;)
"I swear on
my honor as a gentleman I never asked that little man to tell me anything."
Heh. Love the scene of them in the hallway with Laura ignoring Steele and
playing charades while Steele is getting the information. And then Laura
is angry that he did it so easily. It reminds me later of that scene in
Lofty where she did all that legwork and he found it out from tracing the
fingerprints -- though then he was actively detecting and just doing a
better job -- but she was murderous in her jealousy.
seems fair does it -- you holding the reins me taking the whip." What a
"Where do you
find these films" -- love that confused exasperated almost squeak of Laura's
as Steele and Bernice exchange info on The Yakuza.
Is this the
only time we actually see Steele in a movie theater watching a film? He's
in a theater in Steele Your Heart Away and outside a porn one in Beg Borrow,
but I don't recall ever again see him watching a film in a theater unless
one counts the opening credits.
I'm sorry --
I have to agree with Steele's disbelief that Murphy found that specific
girl in that neighborhood just from Laura's description. I mean-- come
on! Speaking of which that's Mrs. Kim on Gilmore Girls.
I love how
revved up Steele is about putting together clues outside the theater with
Laura -- he's all chirpy, a tad confused and rather out of his depth but
so eager to join in.
Crinkle. Makes us sound like a London law firm."
tell you that one too." "Such a wise family". I love the entire clipped
exchange and the way he says wise. He maintains this great cool manner
in the interview with Tanaka (great actor). It shows that when dealing
with a very powerful efficient dangerous criminal class he's very much
able to hold his own -- more so than Laura who completely loses her cool
and almost her head.
Murphy -- I just adore them together. The mantle and the shooting hoops
to autograph the death certificate? *snort*
I like that
Steele the gourmand still doesn't embrace the concept of sushi. It shows
that there's a still a little bit of that street kid that would prefer
fish to be cooked. (maybe even with a side of chips though he might not
open toe sling backs that she shoves in the door (though that's got to
hurt). Is that the same suit from Approval? I never noticed the three-button
side motif on the Approval suit though the shawl collar and dark navy is
the same. Either way -- it's easily one of her best suits. Classic and
complimentary. Laura -- not that convincing a geisha -- they must have
had a lot of saki before she showed up.
shirts with white collars -- very 80s and I dislike them, especially when
they detract from such a gorgeous 3 piece pinstripe grey suit. And yes
to Steele all in black -- a thing of beauty -- it compliments his lean
panther like qualities and his coloring.
by MickeyBoggs (Sat Dec 16 2006 20:19:41 )
- The cat story
E&F, QWYA, U&D
- The "teach
- Laura vividly
describing the car crash to the Japanese woman
- "The mantle
of Remington Steele" conversation
- The "shooting
hoops" exchange - and the follow up awhile later about "wild hoops" &
Laura's puzzlement at that
- Laura seems
to be a bit better with dead bodies by now
Mr. Steele's not a sushi connoisseur
reaction after the Major leaves her in the restroom - she's not unshakeable
knows the actors in The Yakuza and that doesn't faze R or L at all
- I believe
this is the first mention of Laura's crinkle - cute exchange about "Scowl
- Rem's chagrin
as he realizes he led the bad guys right to Mike. Laura takes his admission
with great grace.
- Laura gets
the swords drawn on her, but Rem recognizes the need for saving face. She's
better at the detective work, but his life-experience helps them get out
of the situtation.
- Rem gets
a much-needed haircut. Laura's hair is great throughout the ep.
- Like her
classy navy dress at the beginning of the ep and the beige suit.
- Love his
break-in outfit...he looks so good in black
Rem: "A man
can only doodle on his napkin for so long, Laura."
Rem: "Go on,
Miss Holt, tell him who I am."
Ito, this....is Remington Steele himself."
Things That Make You Say "Huh?"
- The misspelled
- A look at
the clock in the church reveals it's 10 am, but shortly after that Rem
complains about the chamber of commerce luncheon. A little early for lunch...
- Why is there
a pay phone in the ladies' room?
- Just where
did they get a geisha outfit on such short notice?
- When Laura
bashes the last baddie on the head, Mike is still in cuffs, but in the
next shot, where they exit the room, the cuffs have vanished
- Laura does
the world's fastest change from the geisha outfit, makeup and wig-smashed
hair into a new outfit with gorgeous hair
by everglade68 (Sat Dec 16 2006 22:14:06 )
liked the way you organized your post. You wrote such good points that
I am going to have to rewatch this episode.
I was most
impressed with your points regarding character development as that is pretty
important to me. Your comment of "saving face" is so interesting because
it reminds me of PB's Noble House mini series.
by MickeyBoggs (Sun Dec 17 2006 13:47:44 )
I noticed the way he "barked" his lines too. I *think* it's supposed to
mean he's upset? This whole ep has a different "feel" to it. The actors
have their characters down pretty well, but the director is the one that
MG & SZ mention as wanting them to be "serious" throughout filming.
It defintely gives things a different tone.
by jrdedrick (Sun Dec 17 2006 15:29:52 )
Now I know
you all missed my notes (YAH RIGHT! LOL) so here they are. Sorry they're
late and so short. Its been non stop drama here, and my heart wasn't really
in this one.
Steele the One for me
Ok, first things
first. I don’t like this episode. It’s definitely in the bottom of the
stack for me. So please read this with sarcasm in the forefront of all
Sorry if some
of these comments have been said all ready. The guy who played Mike Ito
was just a BAD actor. He wasn’t convincing at all. And what was with him
yelling his lines? Was he deaf or something? Love how Steele shows up thinking
its Laura who has someone at the funeral. Love the initials used through
the show. C&D-Cut and dried.
me!” Does he really want to learn or is he trying to get Laura interested
-Get out your
notebook...and he does.
one in private detecting—
Go over all
known facts (is this the same one that she says in the next episode when
she’s telling him how to solve the case?) Is that all? Are there no more?
Kenji’s body, who arranged for the funeral and who were the three other
at apartments always that nosey or is that a cultural thing?
good (NOT!) at breaking the language barrier. The little old man who finally
whispers it in Steele’s ear.
got killed by a refrigerator door?
and frightening (WHO came up with the initials?)
Why is there
a payphone in the ladies bathroom? And how did the Major know that she’d
even come in there? Like the gunrunning flea term.
Palace of Heaven
the BIG mystery of the show.
the best line on this one I think.... “Refer him to the advice columnist
at Soldier of Fortune Magazine.”
Mitchum, Brian Keith, Warner Brothers 1975. Does Yakuza really mean
ruthless code of honor?
Is the Palace
of Heaven a movie theater? And what is the lady from the funeral doing
there and just how did she know Steele and that he’d be there? He wasn’t
at the funeral when she was so she wouldn’t have seen him there.
is a team of course (well during Season One anyway). Who knew about Mike?
And why when he was being beaten up and kidnapped did he have no business?
When L & R were there earlier his business was booming.
1st Street. Where specifically on the street would that be? Laura’s hat
is pulled so far down on her forehead that you can’t even see the darn
crinkle. Love the law firm reference though-Crinkle and Scowl.
letters- BF (bloody fool)
What the frick
is the Palace of Heaven? Have I asked that question before....LOL
you think they’d know who their own geisha’s were? And how did Murph know
exactly when to drive up and get them?
Guy comes into
the office and tackle the poor guy why don’t they?
“We’re in the
wrong movie!” (The Third Man-Joseph Cotton and Orson Welles)
Palace of Heaven is computer codes that detail their whole operation in
Japan? (What operations were they?) So that’s what it is? After all this
I was hoping the Palace of Heaven was something else. (Anybody recognize
Kenji as the gardener Sam in Steele At your Service?)
it makes people wonder what you're up to!
by DCZinger (Sun Dec 17 2006 16:20:07 )
guy who played Mike was definitely the weakest link in this episode. I'm
thinking perhaps the casting director was having a bad week and her assistant
stepped in and cast her boyfriend. OR the excellent actor they hired got
sick on the set that day and rather than lose precious shooting time they
had an intern step in. This is the first instance in the Steele show where
they missed the boat in casting.
were no first rate young Japanese actors who came to LA from New York "three
weeks ago"(to quote Stephanie in one of the DVD commentaries)?
I totally forgot
that the guy who played Kenji came back to do Sam the Gardener in "Steele
at your Service". Then again, except for the barn scene at the end where
the "Butler did it", that's one I rarely watch.
I love about you,Laura...Always willing to stick my neck out".
by everglade68 (Sun Dec 17 2006 18:32:46 )
I did missed your notes, they are sooooooooo good. You need to
teach me how
to take such good notes.
I too did not
like this episode so you are not alone. It just didn't make
too much sense
I need to put
in my two cents worth here on the people in the apartment
just nosey or it being a cultural thing. Well, I don't know
Japanese but I find that most minority groups will know their neighbors.
I have to do home visits in my work, and know that here where I live anyway,
I can get reliable information from neighbors. Yet, that is not the case
in non-minority neighborhoods. I think it is just the need to bond
a foreign place, especially in this case, when they did not speak
by pianoRose (Mon Dec 18 2006 15:16:48 )
I saw this
once before. I will not watch again until it comes up for a weekly discussion
which hopefully will be a long time. The fella who played Mike ruined the
whole thing. I cringed when he was on screen.
imdb isn't always accurate...I see this guy did most of his work in the
80's...and not much at that...
I also found
the whole acronym thing annoying...for me it would only work if it was
a continuing thing in other episodes...but it only shows up in this one
right? They act like this is part of their work but I don't remember it
in other episodes. So it seemed pointless to make such a big deal about
it in the story line
geez, I'm cranky
by MickeyBoggs (Mon Dec 18 2006 16:12:30 )
the alphabet game, but, like you, wondered why it didn't get continued.
It does seem odd to bring it up and then just drop it. Lee Zlotoff was
around for the rest of S1 and part of S2, so seems like he could have mentioned
it in some of his other scripts.
by pianoRose (Mon Dec 18 2006 17:38:55 )
it was just a clever little device to highlight Steele's attempts to be
part of the team and served no other purpose so it wouldn't be continued
BUT it came off like this was a regular part of their lingo and seemed
odd that it just popped up in this episode never to be mentioned again
the writer just forgot or thought it would get old fast if they did continue
by DCZinger (Mon Dec 18 2006 19:13:25 )
It was mentioned
that Laura was Abigail's "middle one" and that was never brought up again
either. Go figure.
In any case,
it wouldn't have hurt to use the letters ONCE in a while during the first
season. Then stopping it of course after Murphy and Bernice left.
I love about you, Laura. You keep narrowing this case down to include everybody."
by Xenos1981 (Wed Dec 20 2006 17:30:17 )
futile for me to be posting so late after the fact. Sorry, ladies. I'll
try to do better for this week's episode.
First, I have
some questions for Mickey...The title card was misspelled?!?! I'll have
to go back and check that out! What did they misspell? Also, when did MG
and SZ say that this director wanted them to be serious?
I have mixed
feelings about this episode...Mostly because of the actor who played Mike.
(Who was he sleeping with to get this part?!?! Aaarg!!!) LOVE the developing
Murphy/Remington relationship. Murphy thinking they were becoming..."friends"...Nah!
Cute! The mantle of Remington Steele?!?! Shooting hoops?!?! Great stuff.
I hope I'm not stepping on Lori's toes here, but she just wrote a Christmas
fanfic piece and it has a paragraph in it which I think sums up Murphy's
and Remington's relationship...And it goes perfectly with this episode...
Also loved the
cat story...But how did it end? (Lori, maybe that could be your next story!
LOL!) LOVED, LOVED, LOVED the teach me scene. (If I were Laura, I would
have taught him...and then made HIM teach ME something in return! Heh-heh-heh!!!
Naughty thoughts running rampant through my mind!!!)
Murphy finally let himself relax. The foursome laughed and had a good time.
Murphy found himself watching Laura, and though he was loathe to admit
it, she seemed happy. And when he wasn't busy hating him, he actually found
Steele to be a likable guy. He'd never admit that out loud.
I think the
thing that tickled me the most about this episode (other than Pierce looking
damn hot as usual) was seeing a young Stephen Lee as Mr. Dickerson, the
coroner. (Stephen Lee played "Tony B." one of my favorite recurring characters
on another favorite show of mine, "Nash Bridges". The guy's a GREAT comedic
actor, believe me!)
all I have time for. Life is crazy this time of year. I'll post more regularly
no...No more foreplay!
P.S. New tag
line, Zinger? Good one!